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PostSubject: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:24 pm

Are you left-win or right-wing? Do you support a particular party?

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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:27 pm

I'm republican...but I'm turning into a Independent though. The GOP is awful atm...
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:04 pm

i'm left-wing ... relaxed social life and laziness ftw!


just kidding, but yeah, left wing .. i support BE (portuguese party), btw
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:21 pm

Left wing for sure. Borderline Socialist, to be quite frank.

Also, if I could find one, I'd be a heavy supporter of an American Monarchist party.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:29 pm

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Also, if I could find one, I'd be a heavy supporter of an American Monarchist party.

according to Wiki there's an American Monarchist Society .. i dont think they're a represented party on the congress or assembley or whatever it is though ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantian_Society
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:39 pm

Their website is a fairly out of date Tripod page, so I don't think they're around or currently active.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:45 pm

^ hmm yeah, true, didnt notice that
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:27 am

I'm Independent, mainly because I see one side or the other on so many issues. I try not to vote to much though, that whole boycotting voting until we go back to the old system is working well for me.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:39 pm

I don't pay attention to politics and don't think I favour a particular side. It took a couple months before I found out we had elected a new prime minister last time around.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:35 am

World leaders, Politicians whatever in my opinion are brainwashing us all and preparing for the worst.

Not to aggrovate people ( Very Happy ) but here are a few quotes from the bible ...

'wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12)'
"...For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." óRomans 16:18
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/obama_hand.jpg
http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/6208e95f09f0d35549517e265b29acf6.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/michelle_obama-satan_sign.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satan_sign-sarah_palin.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satanist_clinton.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bush_satan_sign.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bush_satan_hand.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bush_satan_3.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/sarcozy-presidentfrance-satanic.jpg
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satanist-italian_primeminister.jpg

Now on the hand signal, It isn't 'Rock' ... whether you are religious or not it is the symbol of satan. Helen Keller (The creator of sign language) used this hand sign meaning 'I Love You' yet Helen Keller herself was an occultist and Theosophist.

The symbol is actually a little thankyou to satan.

Anyway, I feel like TNALDF XP

But, Politics bores me. They hide behind so much garbage and yet all they worry about it 'Carbon Emissions' and 'saving earth'. Especially since that is all an excuse for New World Order.[/i]
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:28 am

i love the NWO, Illuminati and Masons conspiracies .... not saying they're true or false nor if they're good or bad, but it just amazes me ... i think it's rather interesting and curious
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:36 pm

There not really conspiracies for they are proven and you may not be religious but what is happening RIGHT NOW in today's world is all in revelations.

"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

óDavid Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994.



I mean, I am a christian yet I am not part of any religion. How does this work?

Well Religion's are the start of all evil, As of recent I have been praying to God,Jesus and the holy spirit every day yet I am not part of any religion. Religions are full of greed and hypocrisy.

Now, To my point. The New World Order (To my belief getting signed in Copenhagen in a few short days or weeks and not the global warming crap which is a cover for it) will be an organization which will act as one body controlling the world.

Firstly they will introduce the microchip which will replace money, Credit cards and all your infomation. this will actually be the mark of the beast. Logical if you believe in god and follow the bible.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:45 pm

To anyone that was on DXX: don't you think Sykesy and Chad Jennings are pretty alike these days? Ahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:09 pm

^^ haha, true


i've actually watched a documentary (called "Wake Up Call", for those interested - it's fully available on Google Video, not divided) and it's rather interesting and convincing ... i don't 100% agree with some of the stuff but even not agreeing or just not thinking they'll be possible, i've to say it's pretty convincing and i wouldnt be really surprised if some of the stuff happened ...


(PS: damn you Alex, your Jessica Alba .gif is giving me the hots)
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:51 pm

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Now on the hand signal, It isn't 'Rock' ... whether you are religious or not it is the symbol of satan. Helen Keller (The creator of sign language) used this hand sign meaning 'I Love You' yet Helen Keller herself was an occultist and Theosophist.

The symbol is actually a little thankyou to satan.[/i]
Very interesting, but get this: Satanists amazingly don't worship Satan in the Catholic sense (I.E. the fallen angel once an ally of God now the sworn enemy forever trying to destroy what God has created and tempt his most prized creation away from the good and righteous) but in a sense that is indeed positive.

Yeah - that's thrown you hasn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:50 pm

Sykesy wrote:
World leaders, Politicians whatever in my opinion are brainwashing us all and preparing for the worst.

Not to aggrovate people ( Very Happy ) but here are a few quotes from the bible ...
Luckily I don't pay attention to politics OR religion Very Happy No brainwashing for me.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:17 pm

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Sykesy wrote:
World leaders, Politicians whatever in my opinion are brainwashing us all and preparing for the worst.

Not to aggrovate people ( Very Happy ) but here are a few quotes from the bible ...
Luckily I don't pay attention to politics OR religion Very Happy No brainwashing for me.

as they truthfully say: Ignorance = Happiness Razz
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:06 am

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Sykesy wrote:
Now on the hand signal, It isn't 'Rock' ... whether you are religious or not it is the symbol of satan. Helen Keller (The creator of sign language) used this hand sign meaning 'I Love You' yet Helen Keller herself was an occultist and Theosophist.

The symbol is actually a little thankyou to satan.[/i]
Very interesting, but get this: Satanists amazingly don't worship Satan in the Catholic sense (I.E. the fallen angel once an ally of God now the sworn enemy forever trying to destroy what God has created and tempt his most prized creation away from the good and righteous) but in a sense that is indeed positive.

Yeah - that's thrown you hasn't it?

No it hasn't thrown me but how is that positive ... So you think destroying the good in this world is a good thing ... That is sad.

Lucifer in heaven was actually the creator of music and supplied it throughout heaven. This to me is interesting because if you look at today's world and music it is sooo influenced just like politicians of today's world. Look for yourself

http://www.av1611.org/666/rock_666.html
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:01 pm

You didn't read at all did you? Or at least only as you wanted to.

Satanists believe you are Satan, and Satan is the power within you.
They do not worship a living deity. Members are Agnostics or Atheists.
There is a major emphasis placed on the power and authority of the individual Satanist, rather than on a god or goddess.
They believe that "no redeemer liveth" - that each person is their own redeemer, fully responsible for the direction of their own life.
"Satanism respects and exalts life. Children and animals are the purest expressions of that life force, and as such are held sacred and precious..."


Yes, they are extracts from the Satanic Bible, how do I know? I've read their bible and I have also followed it in my life.

The nine Satanic statements state that Satan represents:
- Indulgence, not abstinence.
- Vital existence, not spiritual pipe dreams.
- Undefiled wisdom, not hypocritical self-deceit.
- Kindness to those deserving of it, not love wasted on ingrates.
- Vengeance, not turning the other cheek.
- Responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires.
- Man as just another animal - the most vicious of all.
- Gratification of all ones desires.
- The best friend that the Christian Church has had as he has kept it in business for centuries.

The Catholic Church has the Ten Commandments, Satanism has the Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth which are:
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in anotherís lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you, unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm young children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them.

The nine Satanic sins are:
Stupidity, pretentiousness, solipsism, self-deceit, herd conformity, lack of perspective, forgetfulness of past orthodoxies, counter-productive pride, and lack of aesthetics.

Beliefs in Theology:
- People have created Gods in many forms; pick one that might be useful to you.
- Heaven and Hell do not exist.
- Satan is not closely related to the modern (post 1400 AD) concept of the Christian devil. Satanists view Satan as a pre-Christian life principle which represents the carnal, earthly, and mundane aspects of life.
- Satan is not a being, a living entity; he is a force of nature.
- Human life is held in sacred regard. Children in particular are not to be harmed.
- "Satan...represents love, kindness and respect to those who deserve it."
- Black Masses (parodies of the Roman Catholic religious service) are not normally performed by Satanists (except on rare occasions for their entertainment or publicity value).

And LaVeyan Satanism's teaching are based upon these ideas: individualism, self-indulgence, and "eye for an eye" morality, drawing influences from the rituals and ceremonies of occultist Aleister Crowley, and the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche and Ayn Rand.

Employing Crowley's terminology, its adherents define Satanism as a "Left-Hand Path" religion and philosophy, rejecting traditional "Right-Hand Path" religions such as Christianity for their perceived denial of life and emphasis on guilt and abstinence. Unlike Theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism does not involve worship of any deity, but rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent nature.



So no, Satanism is not "destroying the good in this world" it is actually a belief in basic human nature, not what the Christians has condemned because that's what they do best, warp stories against competition or eliminate them. It's what they did to Jews, Muslims, Men of Science and until the recent decline in religious beliefs that is how they continued to operate.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:17 pm

The ironic thing in all of this is simple, so many questions are left unanswered.

Such as, what did the meat eating animals do on the arc with Noah?

If Eve was the only female does that mean we're all incest?

How is "The Devil" or Exodus if you will, not considered to be a God, he's just as God like as Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, etc.

So many questions unanswered, yet politics and religion go hand in hand.

Why was there a face of the Devil during the 9/11 attacks?

To the religious zealots who buy into every little thing without using logic, its because its an omen from God that we have sinned upon the point that innocent people had to die. Which would be considered as a "lamb" of sorts. But what is the sin that was committed?

Here is the bigger question, why were 35 of Osama Bin Laden's closest family member flown out of the country the day after 9/11...

And why were the flown out on Air Force One?

Why is it that Exxon Mobil is making billions, as well as Cheney's company yet the stock market is crashing?

Simple. The stock market is crashing because of the supplies being sent over to Iraq and Afghanistan in order to cover the war efforts. Look at it from the point of view of, the rich get richer. Yeah, the US Military will give you a 20,000 dollar signing bonus and tell you that you'll never leave the country.

20,000 dollars to a bunch of Billionaires isn't much, and that being said why wouldn't they lie to you if you're to stupid to read the fine print in what you sign?

The point is, from a political standpoint there are flaws, and will always be flaws.

Should Americas have guns?

Fuck Yeah.

Should America legalize weed?

Fuck Yeah.

If you agree with both statements than you are in fact neutral on a lot of things, one would assume of course.

Point is, Religion and Politics go hand and hand, amazing ain't it?
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:27 pm

Our democractic politics is vital to the Western world remaining stable and civilized. Plus, it's politicians who run my country so I think it's only fitting to take an interest in it. All these theories about satanism make me laugh. They're created by over-enthusiastic religious people who fear how so many are turning to atheism or agnosticism. I remember reading about how apparently Jay-Z and Rocafella worship the devil. Even if they did, what effect is it having on us anyway? Only a mindless idiot would blindly follow satanism just because Jay does and what Jay chooses to do in his spare time is up to him. Besides, the idea of it is ridiculous as the only 'evidence' is poor. Quite alike to the politic-related ones too. Apart from the odd hand sign, is there really much else? Sorry but I need much more evidence to believe that it means they all follow satan. What makes this theory so hilarious is that if Bush and the rest of them really did worship the devil in secret, why on earth would they throw up devil hand signs in public? The theory lacks logic and to believe it, in my opinion, is naive. What's next - McCartney actually died? Elvis is still alive?

Personally, I'm slightly left-wing but not too far. I think a country works best when being somewhat center aligned so as not to alienate a section of society too much. My party is the Liberal Democrats who are the third biggest in the UK and haven't been in power for like a century which is a shame. Labour and Conservative are pretty samey these days in terms of policies; the Lib Dems seem to be providing an alternative which appeals to me. I'm not able to vote yet but if I could it would be for them.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:31 pm

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Such as, what did the meat eating animals do on the arc with Noah?

Never thought of that, I all ways wondered how come every animal on the planet could walk to Noah's house.
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:16 am

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Our democractic politics is vital to the Western world remaining stable and civilized. Plus, it's politicians who run my country so I think it's only fitting to take an interest in it. All these theories about satanism make me laugh. They're created by over-enthusiastic religious people who fear how so many are turning to atheism or agnosticism. I remember reading about how apparently Jay-Z and Rocafella worship the devil. Even if they did, what effect is it having on us anyway? Only a mindless idiot would blindly follow satanism just because Jay does and what Jay chooses to do in his spare time is up to him. Besides, the idea of it is ridiculous as the only 'evidence' is poor.

Yeah, Evidence is poor because there is very little.

Jay-Z has a song which has been backmasked which says 'Murder Murder Jesus ... 666' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYPzurgenCo (0:40 - 0:50)

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Quite alike to the politic-related ones too. Apart from the odd hand sign, is there really much else? Sorry but I need much more evidence to believe that it means they all follow satan. What makes this theory so hilarious is that if Bush and the rest of them really did worship the devil in secret, why on earth would they throw up devil hand signs in public?

How does this lack logic, I mean this symbol according to today's world is used by rock stars mainly ... So why politicians. The truth is that this symbol is showing allegiance to Satan. I know how 'far fetched' this all sounds but look at it with an open mind. Why would George bush being doing this with a sneaky smirk.



"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast..." ó Revelation 13:4

Now, Why would they being doing this in public? it's quite simple, Everyone over the world is watching them. They look at this people who have control putting there trust into them. Also look at musicians, People look up to them and these politicians and Musicians are just doing there 'job'. Like how is it that someone can become famous overnight, How is it that someone as stupid as George W. Bush can become president (Remember that Bush is a freemason and there is proof).

The answer is that Satan gives these people what they want. Money, fame ... You name it. All you got to do is do a job (Symbols shown by presidential leaders etc.)

For Example:

At the 1992 MTV Awards, the group Red Hot Chili Peppers, upon receiving their award and giving thanks, said:

"FIRST OF ALL we want to thank Satan . . ."


Now if you intrested and you wish to spend 2 hours watching these videos then please do. I know you wont but I will show you the 1st video anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfBRcBZWI8E[/url]

Just look at this with an open mind and not already thinking 'god isnt real' or 'this isnt logical' and tell me what I have said does not make sense
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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:01 pm

^ I don't have time right now but I'll try to watch it soon.

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PostSubject: Re: What are your political views?   Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:28 pm

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Such as, what did the meat eating animals do on the arc with Noah?

Never thought of that, I all ways wondered how come every animal on the planet could walk to Noah's house.

Well keep in mind that around the time of this happening the world was the giant Pangea.
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